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    <title>ONLamp.com: The Pragmatic Programmers Interview</title>
    <updated>2004-06-25T15:08:00+00:00</updated>
    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;O’Reilly Network interviews the Pragmatic Programmers Andy Hunt and Dave Thomas
in &lt;a href="OnLamp.com"&gt;OnLamp&lt;/a&gt;. Many nuggets including this one:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;ORN&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ward Cunningham once told me “With better IDEs, static languages such as Java
are almost as easy to program in as dynamic languages.” You’re both fans of
the Ruby language, especially when compared to more static languages. Do you
think that the potential shift to writing business applications in slightly
more dynamic languages such as Java and C# […] is good for programmer
productivity and ease, or do those languages not go far enough?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dave&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;… Java and C# are not really dynamic in any meaningful way. Memory management
is a small part of the picture, but the real gains in these more dynamic
languages come from different areas, particularly from a flexible type model
and from the ability to metaprogram. Ultimately, it comes down to ease of
expression. If I can express myself in code at a level closer to the problem
domain, then I’m going to be more effective, and my code is likely to be
easier to maintain and extend…I know some companies are using [problem domain&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;code] with great success. And you know — they’re keeping quiet about it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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